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***agent_kith*** · 26-Oct-2018, 08:47 AM

Snakeoil OS is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. For some reason Signalyst decides to move everything to 18.04 LTS.

LTS means long term support. Which means Ubuntu will support it for the next five years upon release. 16.04 LTS is released in early 2016, meaning end of life will be around 2021 (> 2 more years to go). 18.04 LTS is released early this year in 2018, and it's shelf life will expire around early 2023 (> 4 years).

And that's the crux of the matter - LONG TERM SUPPORT. This gives stability and predictibility to the base OS. Anything built on 16.04 may have a chance to run on 18.04, but the reverse is almost always not true.

To make HQPlayer work again, I'd have to modify the installation procedure to include software from the 18.04 series. The latest version of HQPlayer will work again, just bear with me. Bored

***Mivera*** · 27-Oct-2018, 01:53 AM

(26-Oct-2018, 08:47 AM)agent_kith Wrote: Snakeoil OS is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. For some reason Signalyst decides to move everything to 18.04 LTS.

LTS means long term support. Which means Ubuntu will support it for the next five years upon release. 16.04 LTS is released in early 2016, meaning end of life will be around 2021 (> 2 more years to go). 18.04 LTS is released early this year in 2018, and it's shelf life will expire around early 2023 (> 4 years).

And that's the crux of the matter - LONG TERM SUPPORT. This gives stability and predictibility to the base OS. Anything built on 16.04 may have a chance to run on 18.04, but the reverse is almost always not true.

To make HQPlayer work again, I'd have to modify the installation procedure to include software from the 18.04 series. The latest version of HQPlayer will work again, just bear with me.

Thanks for the heads up! I won't update until you have Snakeoil updated.

***agent_kith*** · 27-Oct-2018, 08:28 AM

(27-Oct-2018, 01:53 AM)Mivera Wrote: Thanks for the heads up! I won't update until you have Snakeoil updated.

Got the proof of concept running, and as expected NAA don't just bloody crash now. Now to nicely tuck all it in so the installation would work when the user click a single checkbox.

Stay tuned. Thumbs Up

***agent_kith*** · (This post was last modified: 27-Oct-2018, 12:03 PM by agent_kith.)

Software write messages to two different consoles - standard out (stdout) and standard error (stderr).

Snakeoil console only shows messages from stdout, and not stderr. And hence some error messages are not trapped and displayed to the user properly. The end result is HQPlayer may appear to be installed, but it's not. I have tweaked the system and now it should look like this. Notice the last line where it said there are errors.

All these changes (and a working version of HQPlayer and NAA) will be available in Blind Testing U1. No ETA when U1 will be ready yet, but hope it'd be sooner rather than later.

***agent_kith*** · 28-Oct-2018, 09:02 AM

Got a working concept now (as in works for me, but YMMV).

Will now check your CPU to make sure it has the SSE4.2 extensions too. And will correctly report errors.

Also noticed the system is quering the USB status every time it's trying to refresh the console. Fixed that and now the console display is be more responsive (and install speed is increased).

All will be coming in Blind Testing U1.

***agent_kith*** · 28-Oct-2018, 08:00 PM

HQPlayer definitely needs SSE4.2 extensions. But I am not exactly sure if NAA requires the same extension or not.

So for now I only add a check for SSE4.2 when installing HQPlayer, but not for NAA.. And will see how it goes.

There's one more issue for me to look at before releasing Blind Testing 1.1.1. So I hope guys who want to use the latest version of HQplayer will bear with me for a couple more days.. Thanks

***Mivera*** · 29-Nov-2018, 09:27 PM

Just catching up on this thread now. I wasn't getting notifications. Did you get this sorted yet? I'm trying to get my HQP going but it's broken now and no way to find the 3.24 version. Not available on the HQP website.

***agent_kith*** · 30-Nov-2018, 08:22 AM

(29-Nov-2018, 09:27 PM)Mivera Wrote: Just catching up on this thread now. I wasn't getting notifications. Did you get this sorted yet? I'm trying to get my HQP going but it's broken now and no way to find the 3.24 version. Not available on the HQP website.

Havn't worked out a fool proof way yet. In theory, you can try this:

1. SSH into your computer
2. run "sudo apt purge hqplayer"
3. then go back to the web app, and install HQPlayer.

That worked for me. Let me know how it goes, and if it doesn't work, post the text from the console here.

***Mivera*** · 01-Dec-2018, 07:21 AM

How do I SSH into the Snakeoil computer?

***agent_kith*** · 01-Dec-2018, 07:27 PM

(01-Dec-2018, 07:21 AM)Mivera Wrote: How do I SSH into the Snakeoil computer?

Refer to this section in the manua: Logging In.