[BETA] v0.1.5-pre-release-20161216

[agent_kith]

Install of the 64 bit iso went well and everything works as expected. Nothing out of the ordinary noted yet.

Is your computer in UFI mode or legacy BIOS?

One behaviour of the installer is odd (and is the same in previous releases) in that when the partitioning window appears it automatically populates Snakeoil as the sole OS overwriting everything else on the hard disk. This is not the standard Ubiquity method which gives various options when other os' and partitions are found. ie Replace,alongside, or 'something else' that takes you to the manual partitioning window.

I notice that too. I wonder if it's because of the settings I've made to the ubiquity script. Something I hope to change soon. Another issue is the + and - icons are missing.

Eventually the plan is to drop ubiquity and go with my custom installer (how hard could it be? ). Several advantages to drop ubiquity: 

1. Reduce the file size of the ISO
   
2. Streamline the whole user experience as you can install the OS direct from the web-app, or continue to use it in USB persistent mode 
   

Unfortunately time is not really on my side.
 

For those unused to the Ubuntu installer it may mean that where they expect the default to be 'alongside' they end up with 'replace'.

Yeah, I have read reports of that. Try as I might, I just can't recreate what they have done. I have tested installing Snakeoil as a secondary OS before and I still don't exactly get how they did it . Being more experienced in Linux unfortunately made me blind to some of the mistakes the less experienced users can make.

I wonder if UFI works for multi-boot OS.

(yes, I know there are warnings... but I have seen someone post on the forums that their drive was overwritten    )
Perhaps in the installation notes in the handbook you could point out that for a dual boot install with one or more existing os' they have to hit the 'revert' button on the partitioning window to bring up the existing partitioning layout for editing.

Great idea. I'd update the manual. 

[Bromf]

"Is your computer in UFI mode or legacy BIOS "
Legacy Bios.


Ok, I just tried the 32 bit version on the newly arrived HP Thinclient.
Boots to the installer but no network.

Lshw shows a Broadcom BCM57780 ethernet but Snakeoil fails to recognise it.

Just to check, as this is new hardware to me, I tried Volumio x86 from a usb drive and that runs fine and uses the Broadcom BCM57780.

Any workaround you can suggest I am very willing to try

[agent_kith]

"Is your computer in UFI mode or legacy BIOS "
Legacy Bios.


Ok, I just tried the 32 bit version on the newly arrived HP Thinclient.
Boots to the installer but no network.

Lshw shows a Broadcom BCM57780 ethernet but Snakeoil fails to recognise it.

Just to check, as this is new hardware to me, I tried Volumio x86 from a usb drive and that runs fine and uses the Broadcom BCM57780.

Any workaround you can suggest I am very willing to try

BCM57780 is already supported in the 0.1.5 ISO. Unfotunately this chipset is a bit iffy. Volumio 86 probably works better because all the drivers are loaded as modules instead of statically compiled like Snakeoil is doing.

Unfortunately being a static kernel means the usual workarounds don't work. What you can do is try and plug and unplug the network cable and see if that works.

If that doesn't work it means I have to build a new custom kernel for you to apply.

[Bromf]

 

BCM57780 is already supported in the 0.1.5 ISO. Unfotunately this chipset is a bit iffy. Volumio 86 probably works better because all the drivers are loaded as modules instead of statically compiled like Snakeoil is doing.

Unfortunately being a static kernel means the usual workarounds don't work. What you can do is try and plug and unplug the network cable and see if that works.

If that doesn't work it means I have to build a new custom kernel for you to apply.

Un and re-plugging doesn't work. Tried reburning the iso just in case but same result.
I will leave Volumio running until the New Year and perhaps we can look at it again then ?. 

Thanks for the help and have a Bonza Chrissy ! 

[agent_kith]

Un and re-plugging doesn't work. Tried reburning the iso just in case but same result.
I will leave Volumio running until the New Year and perhaps we can look at it again then ?. 

Thanks for the help and have a Bonza Chrissy ! 

Can you start a shell (CTRL+ESC to pop up the menu, the select "Terminal") and run the following command:

Code:

dmesg|grep eth0

Cut and paste or take a picture of the results. thanks.

[Bromf]

From Snakeoil  dmesg|grep eth0

returns nothing, just straight back to the prompt with no output.

From Xubuntu
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ dmesg|grep eth0
[   15.419833] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM57780) rev 57780001] (PCI Express) MAC address <snip>
[   15.419846] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: attached PHY driver [Broadcom BCM57780] (mii_bus:phy_addr=400:01)
[   15.419857] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
[   15.419866] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: dma_rwctrl[76180000] dma_mask[64-bit]
[   15.481354] tg3 0000:04:00.0 enp4s0: renamed from eth0
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$

[agent_kith]

From Snakeoil  dmesg|grep eth0

returns nothing, just straight back to the prompt with no output.

From Xubuntu
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ dmesg|grep eth0
[   15.419833] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM57780) rev 57780001] (PCI Express) MAC address <snip>
[   15.419846] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: attached PHY driver [Broadcom BCM57780] (mii_bus:phy_addr=400:01)
[   15.419857] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
[   15.419866] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: dma_rwctrl[76180000] dma_mask[64-bit]
[   15.481354] tg3 0000:04:00.0 enp4s0: renamed from eth0
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$

Hmm. Which ISO did you use? the beta amd64, or the beta i386?

[Bromf]

From Snakeoil  dmesg|grep eth0

returns nothing, just straight back to the prompt with no output.

From Xubuntu
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$ dmesg|grep eth0
[   15.419833] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM57780) rev 57780001] (PCI Express) MAC address <snip>
[   15.419846] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: attached PHY driver [Broadcom BCM57780] (mii_bus:phy_addr=400:01)
[   15.419857] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: RXcsums[1] LinkChgREG[0] MIirq[0] ASF[0] TSOcap[1]
[   15.419866] tg3 0000:04:00.0 eth0: dma_rwctrl[76180000] dma_mask[64-bit]
[   15.481354] tg3 0000:04:00.0 enp4s0: renamed from eth0
xubuntu@xubuntu:~$

Hmm. Which ISO did you use? the beta amd64, or the beta i386?

beta i386   as the thin client is 32 bit atom processor......
https://www.snakeoil-os.net/forums/threa...tml#pid552

[agent_kith]

beta i386   as the thin client is 32 bit atom processor......
https://www.snakeoil-os.net/forums/threa...tml#pid552

The ISO already support the Tigon3 network chip. There is a known problem/issue with the Tigon3 chipset is sometimes it wouldn't work on boot up, and the workaround is to reload the module. Unfortunately this reloading cannot work in Snakeoil OS.

Some things you can try and see if you can get the network to load properly:

1. reset the BIOS settings to factory defaults. Try legacy boot where possible
   
2. Disable PxE on the onboard network
   
3. Try only cold boot up (no warm reboot).
   

If the network driver is loaded properly, you should see the link LED lit up in the ethernet jack.

The design goal of Snakeoil is not to support all the hardware out there. Snakeoil is focused on sound quality, and only support a small subset of hardware that is available out there. If there is an issue with that tigon3 chipset, probably a good idea to ditch that and try another? 

[Bromf]

Some things you can try and see if you can get the network to load properly:

1. reset the BIOS settings to factory defaults. Try legacy boot where possible
   
2. Disable PxE on the onboard network
   
3. Try only cold boot up (no warm reboot).
   

Tried these but no result.

Strange thing is the link light (orange) is lit and the router recognises the connection.
Unfortunately the OS does not find eth0 and the activity light (green) is unlit.

I have tried several usb>eth devices but none of these are recognised.
Being a Thin-client the Nic is integral....   so can't try another.

Might just load Daphile on it as a 'player only' which can be controlled by Snakeoil LMS from another device.
Time to search for a Thinclient that has a supported chipset ootb....   I have other desktops and laptops that would work but I'm looking for the lowest resource usage and running from flash rather than disk.