Working on new Snakeoil release - 1.3.x (Codename Measurements)
#41
(13-Nov-2023, 03:31 PM)uglymusic Wrote: Now, am I understanding this right? Raspberry Pi users will have the choice between running Ubuntu LTS and Raspberry Pi OS? Aren't you just making work for yourself? Or are you having problems making some players work on Ubuntu on the Pi... or something?
Indeed. But only on 64 bit systems now (The original idea of 32 bit Raspberry Pi OS is dropped). Dropping 32 bit support is mainly because the kernel on 32 bit OS is 64 bits now (This breaks a lot of software compilations). Sure I can re-configure the Pi OS 32 bit to use the 32 bit to make everything work again. But I just wonder why I need to do that. Might as well go 64 bits all the way.

As to why. Technically it's possible to run Ubuntu aarch64 on other arm based SBCs, beagle-bone, Asus Tinkerboard (?), and so on. If there's a Ubuntu variant for that SBC, Snakeoil could work. That may be a good thing?

Anyway, Alpha 2 should be prepped up and running. I have tested this on x86_64 and arm Ubuntu. But yet to test this on Raspberry OS. When available, please test it all and let me know how it goes.

Once the release is up, I will need to update the forum software again (always a pain in the arse)... Then gotta get back to day job. A lot of catching up to do. I know it's really bad form to criticise a person who has left so many months ago, but I just can't help it... 

[Image: hate.gif]
Snakeoil Operating System - Music, your way!
Reply

#42
(18-Nov-2023, 09:12 AM)agent_kith Wrote:
(13-Nov-2023, 03:31 PM)uglymusic Wrote: Now, am I understanding this right? Raspberry Pi users will have the choice between running Ubuntu LTS and Raspberry Pi OS? Aren't you just making work for yourself? Or are you having problems making some players work on Ubuntu on the Pi... or something?
Indeed. But only on 64 bit systems now (The original idea of 32 bit Raspberry Pi OS is dropped). Dropping 32 bit support is mainly because the kernel on 32 bit OS is 64 bits now (This breaks a lot of software compilations). Sure I can re-configure the Pi OS 32 bit to use the 32 bit to make everything work again. But I just wonder why I need to do that. Might as well go 64 bits all the way.

As to why. Technically it's possible to run Ubuntu aarch64 on other arm based SBCs, beagle-bone, Asus Tinkerboard (?), and so on. If there's a Ubuntu variant for that SBC, Snakeoil could work. That may be a good thing?

Anyway, Alpha 2 should be prepped up and running. I have tested this on x86_64 and arm Ubuntu. But yet to test this on Raspberry OS. When available, please test it all and let me know how it goes.

Once the release is up, I will need to update the forum software again (always a pain in the arse)... Then gotta get back to day job. A lot of catching up to do. I know it's really bad form to criticise a person who has left so many months ago, but I just can't help it... 

[Image: hate.gif]

OK. 32-bit SO has gone, but Ubuntu LTS 64-bit will run on RPI 3 and later (including the Zero 2W), so that's everything from 2016(?) onwards. I don't know, but is there anyone here running an RPi 2 or earlier? Dropping 32-bit support is not something to work up a sweat about (IMHO).

I'm moving all my RPis (audio and non-audio) to Ubuntu LTS, where possible, so that's the way I'm going. 

But I guess we RPi users are going to have to compare the Ubuntu LTS and Raspberry Pi OS versions to see if there's any sonic advantage one way or another  Angel

Going to try to get Alpha 2 installed this weekend (I have another distraction arriving today, according to Royal Mail). Can you guess what it is?  wacky
Reply

#43
(18-Nov-2023, 08:24 PM)uglymusic Wrote: OK. 32-bit SO has gone, but Ubuntu LTS 64-bit will run on RPI 3 and later (including the Zero 2W), so that's everything from 2016(?) onwards. I don't know, but is there anyone here running an RPi 2 or earlier? Dropping 32-bit support is not something to work up a sweat about (IMHO).
Yeah... That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Tongue

(18-Nov-2023, 08:24 PM)uglymusic Wrote: I'm moving all my RPis (audio and non-audio) to Ubuntu LTS, where possible, so that's the way I'm going. 
Ubuntu build is faster than Raspberry Pi build. I guess the kernel and the build tools are optimised better?

Yet to test this myself, but I think based on just the build environment I think Ubuntu should sound better. Especially when I can kick that kernel builder thingy into production. How many years have I promised this already?

(18-Nov-2023, 08:24 PM)uglymusic Wrote: But I guess we RPi users are going to have to compare the Ubuntu LTS and Raspberry Pi OS versions to see if there's any sonic advantage one way or another  Angel

Going to try to get Alpha 2 installed this weekend (I have another distraction arriving today, according to Royal Mail). Can you guess what it is?  wacky
Pi 5?

I'm gonna take a break today from all things computer and find something to binge watch on TV. Be back on Snakeoil starting tomorrow.
Snakeoil Operating System - Music, your way!
[-] The following 2 users Like agent_kith's post:
  • uglymusic, hkphantomgtr
Reply



Bookmarks

Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Dropping Measurements, Hello High-End. agent_kith 12 438 26-Oct-2024, 09:02 AM
Last Post: agent_kith
  Snakeoil Music server & Snakeoil its own endpoint hkphantomgtr 9 894 22-Jul-2024, 05:51 PM
Last Post: Snoopy8
  Make SnakeOil install much easier Snoopy8 5 1,177 24-Aug-2023, 03:28 PM
Last Post: agent_kith
  Request For Comments: Snakeoil 1.2.0 (Gear Isolation) agent_kith 103 36,300 02-May-2021, 09:14 PM
Last Post: agent_kith
  Lsyncd on Snakeoil seafoodlover 6 3,078 18-Jan-2020, 07:26 AM
Last Post: agent_kith



Users browsing this thread:
4 Guest(s)

[-]
Our Sponsors

[-]
Welcome
You have to register before you can post on our site.

Username/Email:


Password:





[-]
Latest Threads
Howto setup resampling in Logitech Media...
Last Post: Coacharnold
18-Nov-2024 12:06 AM
» Replies: 7
» Views: 5792
Dropping Measurements, Hello High-End.
Last Post: agent_kith
26-Oct-2024 09:02 AM
» Replies: 12
» Views: 438
Very happy to have Sankeoil......! mpd w...
Last Post: run51
24-Oct-2024 05:35 AM
» Replies: 9
» Views: 1670
SO no soundcard detected - RPI Pi4 snake...
Last Post: run51
21-Oct-2024 10:55 PM
» Replies: 4
» Views: 102
download
Last Post: Snoopy8
19-Oct-2024 05:52 AM
» Replies: 1
» Views: 103
Full proces to instal snakeiol 100% work...
Last Post: audioluthier
11-Oct-2024 02:32 AM
» Replies: 9
» Views: 330
A network protocol designed for CAS
Last Post: hkphantomgtr
10-Oct-2024 09:48 PM
» Replies: 0
» Views: 84
CAS with "Single Core"
Last Post: hkphantomgtr
06-Oct-2024 08:32 AM
» Replies: 2
» Views: 116
MPD player not working
Last Post: Snoopy8
27-Sep-2024 11:54 AM
» Replies: 7
» Views: 213
LMS playing DFF files sampling rate
Last Post: Snoopy8
16-Sep-2024 07:45 PM
» Replies: 5
» Views: 148

[-]
SnakeoilOS Mission Statement

Our mission is to create a free to use computer OS that is easy to install, intuitive to operate and play music that will connect and engage with you emotionally.

SnakeoilOS gives you the freedom to spend more time on listening, enjoying and exploring music. Wasting time on computers is now a thing of the past! Everything is constantly evolving/improving. Please check back often for updates.

If you like this project, do show your support with a small token donation. All donations collected will be used to run this website, and for purchasing new equipment for the project.


Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024. Theme © Melroy van den Berg.